Comments on: Eben Moglen Whacks Tim O’Reilly! http://www.snaplogic.com/blog/?p=65 Thoughts on Open Source, Data Services, and Integration Tue, 25 May 2010 18:04:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: SnapLogic Blog » More on Eben and Open Source Licenses http://www.snaplogic.com/blog/?p=65&cpage=1#comment-1076 SnapLogic Blog » More on Eben and Open Source Licenses Fri, 31 Aug 2007 03:50:09 +0000 http://blog.snaplogic.org/?p=65#comment-1076 [...] in the discussion (here, here, here and here) on Eben Moglen’s session with Tim O’Reilly on Licensing in the [...] [...] in the discussion (here, here, here and here) on Eben Moglen’s session with Tim O’Reilly on Licensing in the [...]

]]> By: Luis Villa’s Blog / freedom ‘for users’- which users did you mean, exactly? (or, of users, user-deployers, and user-consumers) http://www.snaplogic.com/blog/?p=65&cpage=1#comment-363 Luis Villa’s Blog / freedom ‘for users’- which users did you mean, exactly? (or, of users, user-deployers, and user-consumers) Wed, 08 Aug 2007 01:58:55 +0000 http://blog.snaplogic.org/?p=65#comment-363 [...] freedom ‘for users’- which users did you mean, exactly? (or, of users, user-deployers, and user-consumers) “Free software… refers to four kinds of freedom, for the users of the software…” –Free Software Definition, emphasis mine”closing the [ASP] loophole would infringe on certain peoples rights and he [Moglen] didn’t see any way to preserve everyone’s rights…” – Eben Moglen, as paraphrased here [...] [...] freedom ‘for users’- which users did you mean, exactly? (or, of users, user-deployers, and user-consumers) “Free software… refers to four kinds of freedom, for the users of the software…” –Free Software Definition, emphasis mine”closing the [ASP] loophole would infringe on certain peoples rights and he [Moglen] didn’t see any way to preserve everyone’s rights…” – Eben Moglen, as paraphrased here [...]

]]> By: Chris http://www.snaplogic.com/blog/?p=65&cpage=1#comment-277 Chris Thu, 02 Aug 2007 13:29:01 +0000 http://blog.snaplogic.org/?p=65#comment-277 Hi Brian, I can't speak to Tim's greed or any personal animosity toward Stallman. I only know that Eben could have made every one of his points and been more convincing without slinging mud at Tim. As for duplicity, I thought that some of Eben's comments had some of that as well. FSF/GPL are not the only licenses around and to claim that he 'carried Tim's water' conveniently ignores the contributions to open source by the Mozilla, Apache and the BSD communities. Finally, just to be clear, I don't think Tim, O'Reilly Media or OSCON are making a proposal for Microsoft or have anything to do whatsoever with their effort to get approval of their license. Hi Brian, I can’t speak to Tim’s greed or any personal animosity toward Stallman. I only know that Eben could have made every one of his points and been more convincing without slinging mud at Tim.

As for duplicity, I thought that some of Eben’s comments had some of that as well. FSF/GPL are not the only licenses around and to claim that he ‘carried Tim’s water’ conveniently ignores the contributions to open source by the Mozilla, Apache and the BSD communities.

Finally, just to be clear, I don’t think Tim, O’Reilly Media or OSCON are making a proposal for Microsoft or have anything to do whatsoever with their effort to get approval of their license.

]]> By: Brian Berrigan http://www.snaplogic.com/blog/?p=65&cpage=1#comment-273 Brian Berrigan Thu, 02 Aug 2007 07:41:55 +0000 http://blog.snaplogic.org/?p=65#comment-273 I disagree! You are either Full of it or myopically challenged. O'Reilly has let his greed and his personal animosity toward R Stallman become a vendetta against Free &OS. Now he proposes letting MicroShaft in on the Open Src licensing for some of their pseudo-open tricks. It was time E Moglen called TO on his duplicity and i'm glad he called a halt to the BS O'Reilly has spouted. I disagree! You are either Full of it or myopically challenged. O’Reilly has let his greed and his personal animosity toward R Stallman become a vendetta against
Free &OS. Now he proposes letting MicroShaft in on the
Open Src licensing for some of their pseudo-open tricks.
It was time E Moglen called TO on his duplicity and i’m glad he called a halt to the BS O’Reilly has spouted.

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